Hila Yaffe & Orit Zilberman had a fascinating conversation with Michael Max, the host of “Qiological” podcast.

The conversation started in a discussion about the use of Ren-1 and Orit & Hila’s course in TCMAcademy , and evolved into much more!

In Michael’s words:

“Listen into this discussion on both the trauma and healing that can result from working with Ren One, how our own image of what it means to be a doctor can influence how we think about working with this point, and some non-needle ways to powerfully unlock the capacity for healing at the Meeting of Yin.”

You can listen to the podcast in your favorite app, or at Qiological website.

Enjoy!